File talk:Age of Consent - Global.svg

I think the colors would be better if they were shades of green to red. 62.1.250.54 (talk) 14:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

In Ukraine it's puberty, in Belarus it's 18 please correct

In the Philippines it's 12, please correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Labskichan (talk • contribs) 09:31, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

In Spain the age of consent is now 16 rather than 13. 2A02:908:EE11:280:BDD8:6AB7:187C:4858 (talk) 00:25, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

The age of consent in Pennsylvania is 16 (Navy) not 18 (green)

EngineerGreg 05:24, 26 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Engineergreg (talk • contribs)

User:Jytdog removed this image from its pages with the "thanks but this is unsourced" edit comment. I invite him/her to explain further, and specify what sources is lacking so the image can be reinstated. Thx CapnZapp (talk) 14:08, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Yeah images are subject to WP:V as well. What are the sources for the information in the image? Jytdog (talk) 15:38, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Why did you remove the whole graphic if that's all you wanted to ask? A simple would have sufficed. You can read the author's source info right here, in the file's summary: File:Age of Consent - Global.svg#Summary. CapnZapp (talk) 23:14, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Reinstating file usage while we continue our discussion. This does not appear to be an issue warranting wholesale removal of info. Feel free to suggest improvements/updates to the graphic to the author here, though. CapnZapp (talk) 23:16, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Read WP:BURDEN. Fixing the sourcing later is not OK. There are no reliable sources cited at File:Age of Consent - Global.svg#Summary. Jytdog (talk) 23:50, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

I agree with Jytdog. Needs to be sourced. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 08:45, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

• The map was created in 2011 based on (presumably cited) information on Wikipedia, and has been updated 22 times as laws have changed. Unless there is some specific citable evidence that there is something incorrect in the map (in which case, the appropriate course of action would be to update the map), I see no reason not to have the map in the article; it has been there six years without incident. The same goes for nearly every world or country map on Wikipedia which depicts data about individual countries or regions. Softlavender (talk) 11:14, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Softlavender; and Jytdog -- So, I am guessing this means we can presume this file has been updated "22 times" based on sources used in the "Age of consent" article? Perhaps, it would be better to explicitly cite which sources (or references) are used to update this file. Otherwise, it could be, we are just saying this file's accuracy is based on presumption. I'm not sure restoring this file to the articles it was removed from is appropriate. It might be better to wait until after this is resolved. ---Steve Quinn (talk) 21:14, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping. I am not a big fan of the argument "This sucky thing has existed for a long time so we should keep it". This is not like a picture of a generic tree captioned "tree". There are hard facts encoded here that need citations. We aim to provide the public with accepted knowledge and the only way we can be sure this map reflects that is to have the citations to show it. Jytdog (talk) 21:21, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

"the appropriate course of action would be to update the map" — that was my intention with the introduction of the tables under Age_of_consent#By_country_or_region, but couldn't find an easy way to that dynamically, i.e. linking the table to the map (not too keen on handpainting 200 countries). — Wisdomtooth32 (talk) 14:33, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Agree with Softlavender. Just improve the "source" info here in the file so even Jytdog understands exactly from where the info is taken, and then modify the file to include the revision date (visible to the reader of each article where it is used), and poof every problem is solved. CapnZapp (talk) 11:16, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Let me also remind everybody that I asked Jytdog what kind of info he would consider acceptable (to add to the file's "source"). I have yet to get a reply on that. Jytdog, why don't you show some good faith and make it easy for us to meet your demand? Instead of us going back and forth, why don't you show us what we need to do, so we can avoid deletion discussions and instead constructively move towards reinstating the image on its articles? Note - I'm not putting the burden of actually doing the work on you. I am merely asking you to clarify what kind of reference you lack. Hopefully you have realized that the current state of affairs is fine for some editors, so please take the time to explain what, exactly, is lacking. This way, we can avoid somebody taking the time to address the issue only for you to say it isn't good enough. Without you explaining what you feel is lacking, we can't know how reasonable your request is, and this discussion risks stalling into just procedural back and forth. For example, if you could point to another SVG which is adequately sourced and which has a similar scope (collating Wikipedia itself, rather than some single external source), that'd be great. Constructively, CapnZapp (talk) 11:27, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Making this personal is incorrect. This is en-WP policy. (The Commons has no V policy, so the SNOW reaction to the deletion discussion there is unsurprising; they will even keep images there that have incorrect information encoded). Citations in Wikipedia are common as dirt. See the section above where there is one valid citation and one invalid citation (Wikipedia is not a reliable source, per WP:USERGENERATED). A list of the actual sources could be added in the page on the commons in the field called "Sources". This is not needed there, but would be useful in WMF projects like en-WP where they are needed. That list of citations could then be added to the caption where ever the image appears in en-WP - the citations need to be appear with the image in en-WP. Jytdog (talk) 14:34, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

I nominated this file for deletion based on the above discussion. The deletion discussion is taking place here . ---Steve Quinn (talk) 05:16, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

It's just not true. I've seen people on the internet claim that Japan's age of consent is 13, even though it's trivial to look up and figure out that it's 18. This map must be the source of the misconception. Anecdotally, I've seen people comment on it when shown this map, and even cite it as 'proof' of Japan's age of consent. Compare China, which actually does have a low age of consent, yet the two countries appear to be near identical. cnte ^(talk) 11:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Seems like a lot is happening lately, Texas is flipping between edits, but it should be 17 olive colored Mattman00000 (talk) 18:53, 27 May 2023 (UTC)