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Original – Tobias and the Angel are out walking with a fish. And a dog - Why? Read article.
ALT - High resolution NGA scan from source
Detail Comparison - Original Left, Alt right
Reason
Good scan, interesting theme. The painting is by the Italian Renaissance painter Filippino Lippi, depicting Tobias and the Angel, rom c. 1475-1480. The painting is in the the National Gallery of Art of Washington, DC, where Crisco took it to give everybody a nice Christmas mood, angels and happy end and all that...
Articles in which this image appears
Tobias and the Angel (Filippino Lippi) (own article), Tobias and the Angel, List of painters and architects of Venice
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Artwork/Paintings
Creator
Filippino Lippi
  • Thanks, Wolfie. Wonder though, if the original doesn't got the right colors, though. The work is rather tiny, it is 33 × 23 cm (13 × 9.1 in) - so the resolution of the original scan might be just enough...‎(2,123 × 3,000 pixels, file size: 4.04 MB) -- ... Hafspajen (talk) 11:43, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
  • People have a tendency to just crank up the saturation and contrast on artworks, reality be damned. We know this, although given Crisco's the one uploading, perhaps they just restored it recently by removing a varnish layer. In any case, we should go with the more recent scan by the gallery. Oppose original. Will need to check the alt over for stitching errors. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:13, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
  • It's impossible to tell for sure without seeing in person but alt feels right to me, in the same way original felt wrong. I think the yellows are the main tell-tale.
With regards to resolution, as long as it reveals more detail my inclination is to go with as much as available in preference to minimising file size. Not sure if people follow? In this case alt is approximately 600PPI which doesn't feel over the top for this work.
The stitching was a simple case of manually aligning per pixel 3 parts split vertically (top, middle and bottom sections), but I would agree that checking would be good in case I made any errors. - Wolftick (talk) 17:01, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
  • I understand if the original is preferred but unless examples can be cited I would assert that there are no stitching errors with the second image. While it was stitched together this was achieved using only 3 overlapping parts of the original whole and thus could be performed manually with per pixel accuracy. - Wolftick (talk) 05:23, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment - I would contend that while less sharp and contrasty in thumbnail the colours in alt are clearer and more luminous in alt. Note in comparison the rosey cheeks and distinction in colour between the face and hair that are present in alt but sadly absent in the original, along with the blue sky that is actually blue rather than grey, the richer green... I could go on. - Wolftick (talk) 12:16, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
  • @Hafspajen and Crisco 1492: The ALT appears to be the scan from the NGA. Where has the original come from? You're stating it's accurate because the original is the one the museum released; that doesn't appear to be true. Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:56, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment - In an attempt to resolve stalemate, I note that Original is now marked as superseded by Alt on Wikipedia. Original is not currently used in any articles and this change has not been reverted for some time (as uploader of Alt I did not make this change). According to FPC criteria this renders original ineligible for FP and as it stands it now becomes a sole question of whether Alt has enough support. - Wolftick (talk) 15:47, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

This has gone on a month. Only the alt is used in articles, and its usage seems to be stable in them, given it's been a month. Can I suggest we simply promote the alt? Otherwise, I think this has to be failed. Adam Cuerden (talk) 08:07, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Comment - Original is now not used in any articles so cannot be promoted as things stand. Alt is now the version used in articles and by my count just about has the necessary 5 supports if you count slightly tenuous "support either" votes. If things remain like this I would suggest either promote alt or not promoted per didn't reach the necessary quorum. Don't mind which but I think it would be good to clear this up. - Wolftick (talk) 18:17, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Promoted File:Tobias and the Angel - Filippino Lippi.jpg ---The Herald (Benison)the joy of the LORDmy strength 15:09, 3 April 2016 (UTC)